Fermented cod liver & butter oil alternatives?

[jnickell]

Wow they were quick!
Per Dave at Green Pasture -

"About 1/4 to 1/2 tsp equals 2 caps

The caps are easier to take. The gel is more economical. And some take extra in muscle toning field of work."

So one bottle or 120 capsules provide 30 days for $45 dollars or $1.50 per day
At $49 per bottle - one bottle of the gel provides 240ml or ~48 tsp which is enough for 48+ days based on what Dave said or about $1.00 per day

Still roughly $365 a year for this supplement - I wonder if it is worth it? Based on how I'm buying the PAGG stack for all 4 supplements it costs roughly the same as this one!

[jnickell]

It's really difficult to source these products in the UK so I've ordered from Green Pastures. I have been taking ordinary Cod Liver Oil and D3, but have seen no increase in my Free Testosterone.

What do the cold showers do? It's not explained in the book and I'm not keen on cold showers! This ain't California

Read the chapter on Ice Age for more info on cold showers. It seems the biggest potential benefit is BAT for fat loss.

[thwg]

I found a link that some research has been done in relation to selenium and testosterone levels:

http://www.ergo-log.com/senac.html

This would imply that because Tim was eating brazil nuts, the testosterone increase could have been due to that. The article also claims that NAC will help raise testosterone and a combination of the two will raise it even more. It sounds like cod liver oil and butter are good for general health, but the elevated testosterone could have been unrelated.

This page goes in depth on several different micro nutrients with relation to male fertility (I assume that correlates with testosterone levels):

http://www.holisticonline.com/remedies/ ... rition.htm

Doesn't even mention Vitamin A or D, but does note selenium.

Another link (this one mentions that fats help regulate all hormones):

http://www.livestrong.com/article/99534 ... roduction/

I haven't read through this one yet:

http://pjms.com.pk/issues/aprjun109/art ... icle1.html

[Holly]

Here's a link to the Blue Ice cod liver/butter capsules in the UK: http://www.funkyraw.com/shop/index.php? ... cts_id=379

And the NOW D3 oil you can get on Amazon.co.uk

[justhamade]

I found a link that some research has been done in relation to selenium and testosterone levels:

http://www.ergo-log.com/senac.html

This would imply that because Tim was eating brazil nuts, the testosterone increase could have been due to that. The article also claims that NAC will help raise testosterone and a combination of the two will raise it even more. It sounds like cod liver oil and butter are good for general health, but the elevated testosterone could have been unrelated.

This page goes in depth on several different micro nutrients with relation to male fertility (I assume that correlates with testosterone levels):

http://www.holisticonline.com/remedies/ ... rition.htm

Doesn't even mention Vitamin A or D, but does note selenium.

Another link (this one mentions that fats help regulate all hormones):

http://www.livestrong.com/article/99534 ... roduction/

I haven't read through this one yet:

http://pjms.com.pk/issues/aprjun109/art ... icle1.html

Studies rarely differential between synthetic vitamins and natural forms of them. It is important to note that vitamins, minerals, etc often work synergistically with each other. FCLO and Butter oil work together hypothetically because of the vitamin A, D, K2, DHA, EPA, Selenium, together and the ratios of them. The vitamin D in FCLO is NOT the same as synthetic vitamin D in other fish oils, it is a natural source of vitamin D.

[thebotanyofsouls]

I have done some experimentation with this, since I am moving more towards a vegan diet but still wanted the regenerative effects Tim described. I do:

Minimum 40 almonds/4tbsp almond butter (a mix, usually)
natto (another source of K2 - even richer than organic butter)
8 brazil nuts
avocados, kale/spinach juice, or salad greens in large quantities
10,000IU's Vitamin D a day

I've definitely noticed an increase in testosterone from the protocol, but you have to eat more food to process the beta-carotene into vitamin A (for this, the juice is best. I juice ~600grams of greens, and it ends up making 1/2 cup of juice)

[justhamade]

I have done some experimentation with this, since I am moving more towards a vegan diet but still wanted the regenerative effects Tim described.

Why vegan? Not much healthy about veganism.